Comments on: Ownership of data, privacy policies and other VRM creatures http://www.mediainfluencer.net/2008/09/ownership-of-data-privacy-policies-and-other-vrm-creatures/ helping people break out of pigeonholes since 2003 Wed, 08 Feb 2012 15:15:59 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Adriana http://www.mediainfluencer.net/2008/09/ownership-of-data-privacy-policies-and-other-vrm-creatures/comment-page-1/#comment-7345 Adriana Thu, 18 Sep 2008 10:16:09 +0000 http://www.mediainfluencer.net/2008/09/ownership-of-data-privacy-policies-and-other-vrm-creatures/#comment-7345 John, right on the money regarding users. This has been my approach ever since I heard about VRM two years ago. And yes, the VRM acronym is a bit dull and, dare I say, misleading. Open to suggestions on that one - discussions on this have been going on since day one... :) My priorities are firmly on the user side (a quick perusal of my writing on VRM on this blog will confirm that). I have driving this point within the Project VRM and taking that perspective to the Mine! project: http://www.mediainfluencer.net/2008/05/i-haz-a-mine-let-me-show-you-it/ I organise regular monthly meetings in Lonon for those interested in the topic, the next one is on 25th September. More details here: http://www.vrmhub.net/vrm-hub-monthly-evenings/ It would be good to meet you and explain more, as well as get your perspective on this. John, right on the money regarding users. This has been my approach ever since I heard about VRM two years ago.

And yes, the VRM acronym is a bit dull and, dare I say, misleading. Open to suggestions on that one – discussions on this have been going on since day one… :)

My priorities are firmly on the user side (a quick perusal of my writing on VRM on this blog will confirm that).

I have driving this point within the Project VRM and taking that perspective to the Mine! project: http://www.mediainfluencer.net/2008/05/i-haz-a-mine-let-me-show-you-it/

I organise regular monthly meetings in Lonon for those interested in the topic, the next one is on 25th September. More details here: http://www.vrmhub.net/vrm-hub-monthly-evenings/

It would be good to meet you and explain more, as well as get your perspective on this.

]]> By: John Galpin http://www.mediainfluencer.net/2008/09/ownership-of-data-privacy-policies-and-other-vrm-creatures/comment-page-1/#comment-7343 John Galpin Wed, 17 Sep 2008 16:41:04 +0000 http://www.mediainfluencer.net/2008/09/ownership-of-data-privacy-policies-and-other-vrm-creatures/#comment-7343 Hi Adriana I was reading another article on the BBC website a few weeks ago about how a UK government department had lost some more data belonging to 1000's of people and it suddenly occurred to me that fundamentally if people were able to store and control their own data we wouldn't have these issues. By complete coincidence later that evening i was discussing this with a colleague by who told me about Project VRM which is how i've ended up on your blog. As a newcomer / outsider to this the term VRM really bothered me - it sounds so vendor focused, which i now understand is not the point, however, given that first impressions are so important my first thought was that it would be so much better if the name of this movement conveyed its potentially huge benefits to users. The best i could think of was "personal data management", which isn't that interesting but a bit more "me" focused. I can see there being such demand for this and its potential application not just in terms of how we manage our relationships with vendors but also in terms of how we consume information from the internet that might be of interest to us, that i wonder whether VRM might actually be a bit limiting further down the line? Also getting users to adopt this is going to be important and as there are billions of potential users, maybe it would be better if it spoke to users first and vendors second? Hi Adriana
I was reading another article on the BBC website a few weeks ago about how a UK government department had lost some more data belonging to 1000’s of people and it suddenly occurred to me that fundamentally if people were able to store and control their own data we wouldn’t have these issues. By complete coincidence later that evening i was discussing this with a colleague by who told me about Project VRM which is how i’ve ended up on your blog.

As a newcomer / outsider to this the term VRM really bothered me – it sounds so vendor focused, which i now understand is not the point, however, given that first impressions are so important my first thought was that it would be so much better if the name of this movement conveyed its potentially huge benefits to users. The best i could think of was “personal data management”, which isn’t that interesting but a bit more “me” focused.

I can see there being such demand for this and its potential application not just in terms of how we manage our relationships with vendors but also in terms of how we consume information from the internet that might be of interest to us, that i wonder whether VRM might actually be a bit limiting further down the line?

Also getting users to adopt this is going to be important and as there are billions of potential users, maybe it would be better if it spoke to users first and vendors second?

]]> By: Jackie Danicki » Privacy - the real deal http://www.mediainfluencer.net/2008/09/ownership-of-data-privacy-policies-and-other-vrm-creatures/comment-page-1/#comment-7259 Jackie Danicki » Privacy - the real deal Mon, 01 Sep 2008 19:43:25 +0000 http://www.mediainfluencer.net/2008/09/ownership-of-data-privacy-policies-and-other-vrm-creatures/#comment-7259 [...] nails it, as usual: My take on privacy is that it is a policy of the individual, not in a sense of privacy policy for the individual selected from a given selection, in the style of Creative Commons. Huge difference. For instance, I [...] [...] nails it, as usual: My take on privacy is that it is a policy of the individual, not in a sense of privacy policy for the individual selected from a given selection, in the style of Creative Commons. Huge difference. For instance, I [...]

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