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		<title>By: idLasso, MeeID and retaggr &#124; VRM Labs &#124; sandbox for playing with emerging VRM tools and technologies</title>
		<link>http://www.mediainfluencer.net/2008/04/musings-on-identity/comment-page-1/#comment-8082</link>
		<dc:creator>idLasso, MeeID and retaggr &#124; VRM Labs &#124; sandbox for playing with emerging VRM tools and technologies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 09:51:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] is not my identity, merely a proxy for it vis-a-vis a particular kind of system or record. More here and [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Chi.mp &#124; VRM Labs &#124; sandbox for playing with emerging VRM tools and technologies</title>
		<link>http://www.mediainfluencer.net/2008/04/musings-on-identity/comment-page-1/#comment-8052</link>
		<dc:creator>Chi.mp &#124; VRM Labs &#124; sandbox for playing with emerging VRM tools and technologies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 01:46:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] web has shifted identity and its fundamentals. I can still be private but I can also shape my identity rather than be defined by others or by [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] web has shifted identity and its fundamentals. I can still be private but I can also shape my identity rather than be defined by others or by [...]</p>
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		<title>By: This blogger has a Hankering For A World Without &#8220;Identity&#8221; or &#8220;Federation&#8221;</title>
		<link>http://www.mediainfluencer.net/2008/04/musings-on-identity/comment-page-1/#comment-2036</link>
		<dc:creator>This blogger has a Hankering For A World Without &#8220;Identity&#8221; or &#8220;Federation&#8221;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 21:29:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &#8220;Identity&#8221; in all its various forms, however it has evolved into a companion piece to Adriana&#8217;s musings on identity - not only because upon reading her posting I found us using like words and like metaphors to much [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &#8220;Identity&#8221; in all its various forms, however it has evolved into a companion piece to Adriana&#8217;s musings on identity &#8211; not only because upon reading her posting I found us using like words and like metaphors to much [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Robin Wilton</title>
		<link>http://www.mediainfluencer.net/2008/04/musings-on-identity/comment-page-1/#comment-1946</link>
		<dc:creator>Robin Wilton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 12:33:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great exposition, Adriana - thank you for taking the time to put your thoughts into words.

One observation to be going on with: I&#039;m not sure that other people&#039;s assertions about you are inherently more trustworthy than your own. After all, it may well be in someone else&#039;s interest to lie about you, just as it is sometimes in your own interest to lie about yourself. (&quot;It wasn&#039;t me who broke that window - it was Adriana...&quot;).

Examples like driving licences and bank credentials are useful because they clarify that the reason the credentials are useful is because there&#039;s a trade-off of one set of interests against another. I want a driving licence in order to be able to get around; the DVLA and police want my driving licence to be accurate so they can enforce the law; a third party might assume that my driving licence is a reliable credential because the law enforcers have a strong interest in making it so (and the means to punish me if I lie about myself).

In web 2.0 terms, I think a truly seminal moment was represented by this post, now over three years old: http://www.idealgovernment.com/index.php/blog/multiple_identifiers_are_inevitable/

It points the way to a future where the internet is used to gather &#039;low-trust&#039; evidence in support of an assertion, on a scale which is practically impossible to subvert, and which makes it as reliable as a smaller number of high-trust credentials (such as we have at the moment).

This approach assumes that the third parties either have some interest in ensuring that data about you is accurate, or at least that they are neutral as to its accuracy but have an interest in maintaining its integrity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great exposition, Adriana &#8211; thank you for taking the time to put your thoughts into words.</p>
<p>One observation to be going on with: I&#8217;m not sure that other people&#8217;s assertions about you are inherently more trustworthy than your own. After all, it may well be in someone else&#8217;s interest to lie about you, just as it is sometimes in your own interest to lie about yourself. (&#8221;It wasn&#8217;t me who broke that window &#8211; it was Adriana&#8230;&#8221;).</p>
<p>Examples like driving licences and bank credentials are useful because they clarify that the reason the credentials are useful is because there&#8217;s a trade-off of one set of interests against another. I want a driving licence in order to be able to get around; the DVLA and police want my driving licence to be accurate so they can enforce the law; a third party might assume that my driving licence is a reliable credential because the law enforcers have a strong interest in making it so (and the means to punish me if I lie about myself).</p>
<p>In web 2.0 terms, I think a truly seminal moment was represented by this post, now over three years old: <a href="http://www.idealgovernment.com/index.php/blog/multiple_identifiers_are_inevitable/" rel="nofollow">http://www.idealgovernment.com/index.php/blog/multiple_identifiers_are_inevitable/</a></p>
<p>It points the way to a future where the internet is used to gather &#8216;low-trust&#8217; evidence in support of an assertion, on a scale which is practically impossible to subvert, and which makes it as reliable as a smaller number of high-trust credentials (such as we have at the moment).</p>
<p>This approach assumes that the third parties either have some interest in ensuring that data about you is accurate, or at least that they are neutral as to its accuracy but have an interest in maintaining its integrity.</p>
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		<title>By: How free is &#34;free&#34;? &#124; rare pattern</title>
		<link>http://www.mediainfluencer.net/2008/04/musings-on-identity/comment-page-1/#comment-1908</link>
		<dc:creator>How free is &#34;free&#34;? &#124; rare pattern</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 00:51:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Adriana at Media Infuencer has written something of a manifesto on taking charge of one&#039;s own identity: What I want is option (with set of tools) for individuals taking charge of their identities.* And on the web that starts with exercising sovereignty over my data. This alternative must be networked and not third party dependent or platform based.... [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Adriana at Media Infuencer has written something of a manifesto on taking charge of one&#8217;s own identity: What I want is option (with set of tools) for individuals taking charge of their identities.* And on the web that starts with exercising sovereignty over my data. This alternative must be networked and not third party dependent or platform based&#8230;. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: c0t0d0s0.org</title>
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		<dc:creator>c0t0d0s0.org</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 11:32:03 +0000</pubDate>
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